FIGURE SKATING FORUM JULY 29, 1993 OnlineHost: OnlineHost: *** You are in "Press Box". *** OnlineHost: OnlineHost: Nib922 has entered the room. Nib922: hi! Nebula5: {S WELCOME Nebula5: I just got here Nib922: whats happening? Nebula5: Well, nothing... Nebula5: I think others may show up soon Nib922: is skatemom already gone to australia? Nebula5: Not sure OnlineHost: Pattern99 has entered the room. Nib922: i just saw katerina in an underarm deoderant commerical Nib922: very wierd Nebula5: I saw that last nite Nebula5: Yes very strange. Nebula5: I sure got tired of her Coke commercials Nib922: she has been practicing her english though Nebula5: Yes, I noticed that Nebula5: I remember her first Olympics, she couldn't speak much at all OnlineHost: Pattern99 has left the room. Nebula5: Hello Pattern99 Nebula5: too late... Nib922: didnt stay long Nib922: did you see michell kwan? Nebula5: Yes! Nebula5: I did enjoy her. But I wish the commentators wouldn't Rave so much OnlineHost: CarolSel has entered the room. Nebula5: Hi CarolSel: Hello all! Nib922: i held my breath she didnt look like she had enough height but she cleared them Nib922: hi! Nebula5: Yes, what energy (Michelle Kwan) Nib922: we all had energy at 13 Nebula5: I hope she doesn't lose it as she grows & changes shape.. Nib922: its 17 on up that it looks so hard Nebula5: Did you see any of the other Olympic Festival events - skating? Nebula5: They sure didn't show much Nib922: no. basketball was on all the time OnlineHost: LisaSeven has entered the room. Nebula5: Bleah Nebula5: Hi Nib922: hi ! LisaSeven: Hi Everyone... Nebula5: Yes, there is a Forum tonite! CarolSel: Hi Lisa. LisaSeven: Caryn says to tell everyone hello but that she can't make it tonight... Nebula5: $$$ ? OnlineHost: CarynS has entered the room. LisaSeven: Yes.... Nebula5: Hey, wait a minute... LisaSeven: Oh there is Caryn...I was just telling everyone you can't make it. CarynS: can't stay, all--but I wanted to say hi. Nebula5: Hi there! CarynS: Wanted to be polite. CarolSel: Hi Caryn CarynS: (: Nib922: hi Nebula5: {S WELCOME LisaSeven: I am only going to be able to stay a short while too...my bill is sky high. OnlineHost: MelissaIS1 has entered the room. Nebula5: I don't wan to think about mine. Nebula5: Hello! LisaSeven: Did SkatingMom go to Australia? Nebula5: I think so. LisaSeven: Hi Melissa MelissaIS1: Hello everyone! Nib922: hi CarynS: hi--and bye, unfortunately--anything newsworthy to report? CarynS: Hi Melissa! OnlineHost: Pattern99 has entered the room. Nebula5: You watched the skating this weekend? CarolSel: Hello Melissa. CarynS: yep LisaSeven: No...nothing that I know. I wrote all I know in the group E-mail . Nib922: talked a little about michell kwan LisaSeven: All I have are opinions. Nebula5: Thaat's about all I know. MelissaIS1: I missed the skating this weekend (niece was visiting..) was it good? CarynS: What do y'all think of Michelle? LisaSeven: Well...the thing is about Michelle Kwan is that I think the kid is going to burn out. CarolSel: I was impressed. Nebula5: I taped some of it. THey didn't show much. Nebula5: I think she will grow up. LisaSeven: I don't think she will make it 8 more years....not with the pressure of her father. Nib922: good but very young Nebula5: (which may be good or bad) CarolSel: I hope she doesn't get pushed too hard. CarynS: I'm a bit worried about Michelle--burn out, injuries, and a overbearing dad CarynS: could do her in Nib922: she is just going to juniors in Nov Nebula5: I don't know about her dad LisaSeven: Yes...her father is probably the male version of Madame Bonaly. CarynS: Her dad TOOK her OUT of school MelissaIS1: Oh, they showed her? I wish I could have seen her skate a full program...I've only seen MelissaIS1: clips LisaSeven: Yes, she has tutors. CarolSel: Was there an interview with the father? I missed it. Nebula5: Likewise CarynS: I've read much about the father Nib922: USA today had an article about her LisaSeven: I saw an interview with him months ago I believe. I was rather put off by him. CarynS: None of it flattering Nebula5: Too bad. LisaSeven: I can well imagine. CarynS: Very pushy Nib922: better then Surla's mother though CarynS: 13 and not in school--how will she keep sane with ONLY skating? CarolSel: There was a German skater years ago. Her father was so overbearing the German skating CarolSel: Federation barred both. LisaSeven: I am wondering how her father managed to get her into Nationals at 12 behind her coach's LisaSeven: back. Nebula5: She looked very self-possessed. Maybe she can overcome her father's pressure. LisaSeven: I think that this guy is probably the skating father from hell. CarynS: That put me off too--burn out potential is high CarolSel: Does she have a mother still in the picture. OnlineHost: Jean in IA has entered the room. CarolSel: Hi Jean. Nebula5: Hi Jean CarynS: Triple lutzes when she was 12! What will this do to her physically? LisaSeven: She is a good skater but I have to say that I don't enjoy watching a kid who looks 6 years CarynS: Hi Jean Jean in IA: HI ALL LisaSeven: old on the senior level. LisaSeven: Hi Jeannie. Nebula5: Oksana looks young, but so mature. CarynS: Pattern99--isn't that a blade? (: Hi. Jean in IA: are we talking about the girl who won the Olympic Festival? Pattern99: yes Nib922: yes Nebula5: yES CarynS: Michelle Kwan. CarolSel: Oksana is a PERSONALITY. MelissaIS1: Hi Jeannie. LisaSeven: Yes...there is a big difference between Oksana and Michelle. I can handle 14 years old but Jean in IA: Hi Melissa LisaSeven: not that young. Nebula5: And an entertainer. LisaSeven: I could handle her in juniors but not seniors...not yet. Jean in IA: i wasn't impressed with any of the "women" in the Festival CarynS: I don't care for her myslef, but she is mature Nib922: announcer said 13 year old are eligable for olympics now MelissaIS1: Oh darn, I wish I could have seen her (Michelle) Nebula5: I thought the pairs were all Boring. LisaSeven: No, I have to say I wish they had shown the rollerskating event instead. Nebula5: YES CarynS: Jenna has a beautiful spiral but I wasn't impressed with too many Nebula5: We don 't get to see that very oftn Jean in IA: I didn't really care for Oksana either, Caryn LisaSeven: The only thing I can say about the competition..not the men's...but as far as the other LisaSeven: events in skating was that it gave some people a chance to be seen who never are. Nebula5: That is true CarynS: I didn't catch mens Nebula5: I missed the men's final. Nib922: did they telecast the mens? LisaSeven: I didn't catch the men's either...they didn't show it here. Nebula5: I heard they only showed excerpts Jean in IA: BTW- Happy Birthday to Me CarolSel: Right. Only excerpts. Nebula5: {S APPLAUSE CarolSel: Hey! Happy Birthday Jean. Nib922: happy b-day ! MelissaIS1: Happy B-day Jeannie - How old? CarynS: Oh--that's right! Jean in IA: I'm the big 2-0 now Nebula5: I hate you :) LisaSeven: Happy birthday Jeannie. CarolSel: I was never 20!!! CarynS: Two years older than me. (: MelissaIS1: Just like my sister...no longer a "teen" Nebula5: DId you do something fun today? CarolSel: I was born over the hill. LisaSeven: Ha...I know what you mean CarolSel. MelissaIS1: FIVE years older than me! :) Jean in IA: Sure you were, 20 Carol, it just goes so fast now, you probably don't remember it LisaSeven: Is anyone logging this forum? Nebula5: Children!!!! Jean in IA: I know I was only 18 for maybe 5 weeks LisaSeven: I would log it but I don't know how to. Nebula5: I think I am, but no promises LisaSeven: Oh good. CarynS: But you and I are the original "mature teens" from *P*, Melissa! Nebula5: Didn't work last week :( Jean in IA: Hey Caryn, I was mature (: CarolSel: Yes. Two. Son and a daughter and a daughter-in-law. LisaSeven: By the way, Brenda has an article coming out in Tracings down the line. OnlineHost: SklarKToy has entered the room. MelissaIS1: :) Jean in IA: Hi Sklar Nib922: hi Nebula5: I need to subscibe tto more stuff LisaSeven: Where is Sklar? Nebula5: HI SklarKToy: Whew! I found it! MelissaIS1: Hi Sklar. CarynS: Hi sklar--I just imed you. Nebula5: {S WELCOME LisaSeven: AHA....there he is. Nib922: we aren't that hard to find SklarKToy: Finally, hello, everyone! LisaSeven: Who is Pattern99? Where are you from? CarynS: Jeannie, you weren't technically a TEEN teen Nebula5: I can't wait until we have our new home! Jean in IA: Oh yeah? MelissaIS1: What is that - {S Welcome? Jean in IA: How's that? CarolSel: Hi Sklar Pattern99: from Fairfax, VA Nebula5: If you have that sound, it should play. Nib922: we are hopping to have our own subject soon LisaSeven: Hi..is this your first time here, Pattern99? Pattern99: I own a Skate shop Pattern99: yes Nebula5: Aha! where? CarynS: Hence the name? LisaSeven: Oh...I know a number of people who could use your shop! CarynS: ME! Pattern99: Alexandria Nib922: old town ? SklarKToy: Where's Julie and Janet? They should get to know Pattern99 since Janet's in Fairfax and Julie's in Pattern99: close Jean in IA: I have an aunt in ALexandria SklarKToy: Alexandria? MelissaIS1: Hi, uh, Pattern99 (Sorry, I don't know your name! Welcome!) :) Nebula5: I hope this is the first of many Forums for you. CarynS: Julie is at her lesson--doing her waltz jumps SklarKToy: Gee, Fairfax and Alexandria, VA, must be a big haven for skating fans Nebula5: We're pretty... disorganized. Jump right in. Pattern99: ok MelissaIS1: She's already up to waltzes? Wow. LisaSeven: Well...back to the business of is Kristi back in the saddle..... Nebula5: Yes. Did she reinstate? LisaSeven: That is what I want to know. SklarKToy: No SklarKToy: not yet CarynS: No, she didn't Nebula5: Didn't think so LisaSeven: Does she have to reinstate? LisaSeven: I think she does... CarynS: Geez--I shouldn't be here! My billis way high SklarKToy: I think she better do so soon if they change the rules and regulations again for the next season Nib922: alot more realistic than katerina reinstating Nebula5: Caryn, hope to see you next week LisaSeven: CAryn, I will make you leave in 7 minutes how is that? SklarKToy: Heck, I ate up my 10 free hours on the first 2 days Nebula5: Me too MelissaIS1: I shouldn't be here either...I'm just waiting until my parents get the bill - yikes! :) Jean in IA: Caryn- so's mine, at leasst my billing starts over on Aug. 4 CarynS: OKay--seven minutes Nebula5: Tell them it's a learning experience SklarKToy: Melissa, deny that you were on here! :) CarolSel: What's this about Kristi skating pairs again. What do you all think? CarynS: My billing starts over the 5th. Thankfully Nib922: at least its cheaper than prodigy SklarKToy: I love the idea OnlineHost: MargeR1 has entered the room. MelissaIS1: Who, me? Here? :) LisaSeven: I think that the deadline for reinstating has passed. Nebula5: HI Nebula5: FOr this year. SklarKToy: Who should she be paired with? CarolSel: Hi Marge. Thanks for the info on posting on the boards. Nebula5: Depends if she plans on amateur or.. Jean in IA: Someone explain for me, once the deadline is passed will anyone who turns pro be ablr to Nebula5: Pro competitions MelissaIS1: Hi Marge! Thanks for the lesson! Jean in IA: reinstate? Nib922: yes thanks marge LisaSeven: Hey..gang...she should have reinstated by April. I don't think she is eligible. Nebula5: Or just shows? MargeR1: SOunds like Kristi...... CarynS: Hey Marge-- LisaSeven: Hi marge. SklarKToy: Hi, Marge MargeR1: hi all CarynS: Kristi is considering 1998 from what I hear Nebula5: I thougt it was a one time thing MargeR1: How does Kristi get around the deadline? LisaSeven: Yes...I don't understand at all. I thought the time to apply was April. SklarKToy: It'll be kind of nice to see Kristi compete in 98 in Japan, where her family roots are. LisaSeven: If so Kristi missed it. Nebula5: And only this once. CarynS: She can reinstate at anytime, April nefore the competition--she could reinstate CarynS: April 1997 CarynS: As I understand it LisaSeven: I thought there was a deadline...this April. Nebula5: But has she competed in any ineligible events? MelissaIS1: Oh, so thats how the rule is... CarynS: April is the deadline for Lillehammer LisaSeven: What are they doing..continuing to push the deadline back to meet people's LisaSeven: convenience? CarolSel: What are ineligible events? LisaSeven: I don't mean that ugly but I thought that there was a definite deadline and that was LisaSeven: April. MelissaIS1: Oh darn, I think I might lose you all...this fuse might trip with my mom's air conditioner Nebula5: Non sanctioned by um, somebody, dont' know who. SklarKToy: I wish the Olympics were in Calgary again...they had a great crowd for figure skating CarynS: No--April was the deadline for next year--next april will be the deadline for the year after that CarynS: etc Nebula5: Excuse me if I think that's strange CarynS: Yeah, I suppose it is. LisaSeven: But now see...this seems sort of ridiculous. Jean in IA: Yeah, what's the point? Nebula5: You pop in & out of being eligible? MelissaIS1: Will they ever end reinstatement? Wasn't it for those who felt they were cheated LisaSeven: I mean...those who reinstate should reinstate by a certain time and then let it be an CarynS: Reinstatement isn't just for these Olympics...it's forever LisaSeven: end to the business. Nebula5: That's what I though OnlineHost: CarynS has left the room. Nebula5: 7 minutes? SklarKToy: Well, they can change the rules re: reinstatement later this year pending on the outcome of the Olympi SklarKToy: cs LisaSeven: But that's nuts. I am all for reinstatement but I thought that it was a one time thing. MargeR1: DID she ever change her status originally? Nebula5: Likewise Jean in IA: Basically then, anyone can be pro at anytime, and then just reinstate for an Olymipc year? Nebula5: That's why I asked if she had competed in non-eligble event MelissaIS1: They should end it sometime... MargeR1: Perhaps she still is listed as amateur??? SklarKToy: Can't if she already competed in Pro competitiosn Nebula5: But my understanding was tha some Pro copetitions were OK LisaSeven: See...I find this absolutley absurd. I thought that the reinstatement issue would be LisaSeven: resolved after this year. OnlineHost: CarynS has entered the room. Jean in IA: So you can tour with pros but not compete with them, right? CarolSel: I'm confused. CarynS: I was punted LisaSeven: Now we will have bickering going on forever and ever...people griping and whining. MelissaIS1: Does that change your opinion of it? SklarKToy: !!! Nebula5: Well; they said Brian had competed in events that were not sanctioned by (whoever) CarynS: Anyway, as I was writing before I was zapped.. Nebula5: Which is why he couldn't compete unti they started reinstatements LisaSeven: But Brian hasn't competed in any non sanctioned events since he reinstated. CarynS: Un sanctioned events are those held by Dick Button Nebula5: :) Jean in IA: Now why's that? CarynS: I'm serious LisaSeven: Along with the infamous Diet Coke competitions. Nib922: i thought they cleaned it up CarynS: Dick Button does the pro comps LisaSeven: Well as I understand it the winners are more or less prepicked. SklarKToy: so far so good for Kristi Jean in IA: I just got mail, I'll be back OnlineHost: Jean in IA has left the room. OnlineHost: DoctorRude has entered the room. Nebula5: I always assumed it was sort of a "licensing" issue CarynS: I have a great article about it by Phil Hersh from last year Nebula5: We didn't say it was OK, so you are out, so to speak LisaSeven: Caryn...7 minutes are up. OnlineHost: Jean in IA has entered the room. OnlineHost: PNooney has entered the room. SklarKToy: Shoo, Caryn Nebula5: Go away, come back next week! SklarKToy: or the bill is going to rise Nib922: come back soon SklarKToy: rise Jean in IA: Caryn, are you leaving? CarynS: IN a minute. Nebula5: $$$$$ CarynS: Make me feel wanted CarynS: (: LisaSeven: OK, I will remind you in 5 minutes. Nebula5: We want you, but not broke! Jean in IA: stay, stay, stay SklarKToy: Do you guys find those AOL Network News flashes to be a pain? DoctorRude: Delete them! CarynS: No--I'll leave after I make my announcement Nebula5: We learned last week you can turn them off Nib922: you can turn them off DoctorRude: Announcement? CarynS: Yes Nebula5: Maybe you already turned them off, Doctor? DoctorRude: Already did CarynS: I passed Pre Alpha and Alpha SklarKToy: How? DoctorRude: YAY!!! PNooney: Hi all. Haven't been here in a few weeks. Nebula5: {S APPLAUSE Nebula5: Hi PNooney! MelissaIS1: Go Caryn! Congrats! Nib922: way to go caryn Nebula5: Go to Members, Preferences. MelissaIS1: Hey, how do you get sound to work on AOL? CarynS: After five lessons Nebula5: Notify of news, turn it off. CarolSel: Congratulations. CarynS: Beta test next week LisaSeven: I don't know how to get the sound on. Nebula5: Do you have Windows, Melissa? CarynS: I REALLY need to go MelissaIS1: Yes. Nebula5: Cheers! MargeR1: You need MAC or WIndows to use sound LisaSeven: Five minutes are up, Caryn. Nebula5: Does your computer say Welcom when you sign on? MelissaIS1: Can someone shoo me off in 15 minutes? CarolSel: I've got windows. What do I do for sound. MelissaIS1: Yes it does... LisaSeven: Nebula is logging so we will have a copy of the forum. Jean in IA: I have Windows, but if I have any of my sound enhancers on, I get punted off all the time Nebula5: We think. CarynS: BYE ALL Thanks for congrats Jean in IA: Bye Caryn LisaSeven: Bye CAryn... DoctorRude: Bye CarynRude MargeR1: Melissa what do you have Mac windows or dos version Nebula5: Go skate! CarolSel: bye Caryn PNooney: Been too busy to write, fighting the floods here in St. Louis Nib922: bye MelissaIS1: IBM windows Nebula5: Oh my gosh! You OK P? Jean in IA: floods here too Nebula5: You OK Jean? LisaSeven: Pattern99 do you want to be included in our group E-mail? CarolSel: Yes. Jean in IA: I can't use the computer when it storms OnlineHost: CarynS has left the room. Jean in IA: which is just about always MargeR1: If you are using WAOL check out red clock on status bar gives online time Pattern99: sure PNooney: Where in IA are you?? Jean in IA: Ankeny which is 10 minutes north of Des MOines Jean in IA: and 20 south of ames OnlineHost: Nib922 has left the room. MelissaIS1: That sounds terrible! My sister in Iowa city is out here in NY for a week - she says its ba PNooney: I went to U of I in Iowa City Jean in IA: I go to school in Iowa City Jean in IA: I'm a pharmacy major there MelissaIS1: Luckliy, she lives on top of a big hill. PNooney: I went to nursing school there. Now I live in St. Louis city Jean in IA: Hillcrest, to be exact Jean in IA: is where I live LisaSeven: Well Jean and PNooney are in very bad areas. Is it getting better? PNooney: The river des peres is flooded about 8 blocks from my house. DoctorRude: Okay - hate to break it up but time for some skating talk - anybody here get Tracings? LisaSeven: No, but Brenda has an article coming out in it. DoctorRude: Got the latest issue today MelissaIS1: Hopefully no hurricanes will bother you on the gulf this summer! LisaSeven: What is the latest scoop from Tracings. Nebula5: How often does it come out? LisaSeven: Yeah..thanks Melissa..I hope so too. DoctorRude: Tracings comes out 8 times a year DoctorRude: There's an article this month on Torvill & Dean & Isabelle Duchesnay DoctorRude: Also scoops on Mark Mitchell Nebula5: Scoops? DoctorRude: And Robin Cousins Jean in IA: Hey guys, I gotta go but can I make a request? Nebula5: Yes, what? MelissaIS1: And...details, details. Jean in IA: When I go back to UI can you all send me email? DoctorRude: And a LONG article on Brasseur & Eisler DoctorRude: You got it Jeannie Jean in IA: at jean-daros@uiowa.edu Nebula5: Put it in e-mail here! Jean in IA: ? Nebula5: Group letter. SklarKToy: !!! Torvill and Dean...how I mope knowing that I'll never see them compete in person! Jean in IA: OK, cause I won't have AOL there Nebula5: If they go to Lillehammer, i will. Nebula5: :) :) MargeR1: Yes stay in touch! MelissaIS1: You're going to Lillehammer?! DoctorRude: Okay - there's also an article on Sarah Kawahara so take your pick of topics CarolSel: Another skating question for any old time skating fans. What ever happened to Janet Lynn? Nebula5: Jean, when are you leaving? Jean in IA: I won't be leaving until Aug 19 LisaSeven: Yes...I will still have Prodigy for the E-mail. CarolSel: She wond an Olympic silver medal in 1972. Nebula5: YEs, Melissa Nebula5: She's been in some specials. Nebula5: Not recently, though./ OnlineHost: MICK51 has entered the room. Jean in IA: Bye all, see you next week SklarKToy: 6,000 seats in Lillehammer...I foresee 4,000 seats going to Canadians LisaSeven: OK what do you all think of Katerina's chances this Olympics? DoctorRude: Bye Jean Nebula5: Bye Jean SklarKToy: Adios MelissaIS1: Lucky! Take notes, and be ready to report about it! Sounds like a fun trip OnlineHost: MICK51 has left the room. OnlineHost: Jean in IA has left the room. DoctorRude: Katarina's chances are LOUSY PNooney: Bye, stay dry!!! DoctorRude: She's going nowhere with a triple toe-double toe combination in the technical; Nebula5: I got seats to ice dance preliminary events (not finals) and training sessions. MelissaIS1: Anyone see her new commercial? Deodorant, I think... Nebula5: for all events but pairs Nebula5: Yes; I think Katarina's day is past DoctorRude: but she'll slink really well as usual since Sandra Bezic is supposedly doing her choreography Nebula5: That's a plus LisaSeven: No...I haven't seen her commercial. MargeR1: DEODORANT COMMercial is for Fabrege Nebula5: I Sandra doing everyone's choreography this time??? MargeR1: It is on during ABC soaps Nebula5: (Not that that is bad...) LisaSeven: Is Sandra Bezic the only choreographer around except Toller? DoctorRude: I don't know - I hear she's doing Karen Preston, Josee Chouinard, Katarina, Kurt, Brian B... MelissaIS1: Some slinky skating clips, mostly, and some talk about what goes into her skating Nebula5: Mary Scotvold LisaSeven: Yes, Mary did a fantastic job with the JFK number. She should do more choreography for MargeR1: Is Robin Cousins considered choeographer or coach? LisaSeven: other skaters. Does she do any for others? Nebula5: Both? LisaSeven: Robin is also good but I haven't seen a competition routine done by him. DoctorRude: Robin Cousins does both coaching & choreography but not much coachign anymore as he's in Cats in GBR LisaSeven: He did the choreography for "Cutting Edge." DoctorRude: ewww Nebula5: So if Torville & Dean compete, will he choreograph for anyone else? DoctorRude: Who, Chirstopher Dean? Nebula5: Yes LisaSeven: I don't know if you can compete and choreograph for another skater. What do you all LisaSeven: think? DoctorRude: He's not choreographing for the Duchesnays anymore (they're supposedly getting an "American" Nebula5: Did it say anything about that in Tracings? MargeR1: Divorce tends to do that....... DoctorRude: He's totally focused on the Olympics right now - no room for anything else Nebula5: Hey, if you can desing costumes & be a judge... LisaSeven: Well, they say there is a real lack of choreographers. MelissaIS1: I was about to mentione the divorce...it's going to weird seeing them compete DoctorRude: There's a LONG write up on that divorce....really strong PNooney: What's the scoop on the divorce?? DoctorRude: According to Tracings, Isabelle dropped the bomb on him at the start of the Tom Collins tour when he SklarKToy: There's write up in *P about weak choreography for OUR dance teams! DoctorRude: met her with a huge bouquet of yellow roses MargeR1: What a sweetheart...... Nebula5: "I won't send roses...." SklarKToy: she's such a .... CarolSel: a real sweetie. DoctorRude: "You could drop an atomic bomb on his head and you'd get no reaction." OnlineHost: LisaSeven has left the room. DoctorRude: That's supposedly how he reacted OnlineHost: BrendaW660 has entered the room. SklarKToy: Maybe that's why Paul's so soft spoken and so quiet MelissaIS1: does ahem describe her right CarolSel: Hi Brenda. Nebula5: Ahem was my impression. MelissaIS1: Hello Brenda. Nebula5: HI BrendaW660: Hi, sorry I'm so late ... I had to go to a meeting tonight from 7 to 10 ... ugh BrendaW660: Just got home a few minutes ago. DoctorRude: Isabelle also says that Jayne Torvill hated her and the only time she ever smiled at her was Nebula5: Glad you mad it DoctorRude: when she announced she was divorcing Chris Nebula5: Jayne Torville doesn't smile much anyway! MelissaIS1: Hmm...jealousy? OnlineHost: Orgalon has entered the room. CarolSel: But she knows when to smile. SklarKToy: I think Jayne's wonderful Orgalon: hello what are we talking about Nebula5: How's Jayne's marriage going? Any gossip there? Nebula5: Figure skating Orgalon: why? Nebula5: And gossip MelissaIS1: I like her smile (in my campbells program, anyway..) It stands out. DoctorRude: Isabelle says "I think maybe she was in love with Chris before and never accepted me." CarolSel: Me too. I am big fans of Trovil/Dean. DoctorRude: "though he never loved her." Orgalon: doctor rude where are you from DoctorRude: Virginia Orgalon: im from minnesota myself Nebula5: Gee, lots of folks from Virginia SklarKToy: is Orgalon any relationship to Organon? OnlineHost: DoctorRude has left the room. Nebula5: Me, I'm from Seattle OnlineHost: DoctorRude has entered the room. OnlineHost: Orgalon has left the room. DoctorRude: Jayne is still supposedly very happily married Nebula5: You don't need to leave to send an IM, if that's what's happening! :) SklarKToy: Los Angelino, here, home of Michelle Kwan, Tiffany Chin, Christopher Bowman (brag, brag, brag...) OnlineHost: LisaSeven has entered the room. Nebula5: Lisa, welcome back! LisaSeven: Sorry everyone...my computer through me out of the program again. DoctorRude: My claim to fame is that I skate at the same rink as Michael Weiss MelissaIS1: Long Island, New York over here Nebula5: Doctor, are you a skater? Fan? Nebula5: Ooops, was typing & didn't read DoctorRude: You could sat that DoctorRude: say that I mean SklarKToy: Love 'em typos! DoctorRude: Thanks Sklark Nebula5: :) LisaSeven: Sklar...any progress on judging? Nebula5: I hear he's one to watch (Weiss) MelissaIS1: Ah well, it's about time for me to sign off... SklarKToy: Hey, Julie, on my third time out at the rink, I'm starting to slowly do forward crossovers. DoctorRude: Torvill and Dean have hired a film director to document their comebcack - so watch for a new PBS film SklarKToy: Gosh, imagine what I can do if I practiced more often! DoctorRude: Michael Weiss is very exciting to watch Nebula5: I fall over if I try that. DoctorRude: Congrats on the forward crossovers - tonight I was working on straight line mohawk combination LisaSeven: I hope that Morry Stillwell joins us over here. SklarKToy: Hey, it's almost time for....The Simpsons....for me that is... DoctorRude: and three turn footwork sequences Nebula5: I'm jealous of you coordinated folk! (And dedicated) LisaSeven: Well, it is time for the local news here....can't wait. NOT. SklarKToy: My blades are still too sharp for me to do the snowplow stop DoctorRude: Those are a LOT harder than they look on tv! Nebula5: So, Doctor, are you really Rude? :) DoctorRude: I'm VERY rude CarolSel: I'm jealous of you young folks! SklarKToy: rude or prude? DoctorRude: How young do you think we are? LisaSeven: Prude, Sklar. Nebula5: Yes, we old folks tend to be that way... Nebula5: My first favorite skater was Jon Misha Petkevich. (That's how old I am) SklarKToy: Who the hell's he? SklarKToy: Just kidding LisaSeven: I can remember watching Peggy Flemming and Toller Cranston. Nebula5: Now a bad commentator...! MelissaIS1: Time to check out prodigy. I'm slowly weaning myself from it. Bye all! LisaSeven: Ofcourse, I was in my crib at the time. SklarKToy: Bye LisaSeven: Bye Melissa... Nebula5: Bye Melissa DoctorRude: I've followed skating since about 76 off and on but didn't have a favorite skater until three years ag SklarKToy: Bad Commentator? Try Peter Carruthers OnlineHost: MelissaIS1 has left the room. BrendaW660: Bye, Melissa. CarolSel: Lisa, me too. Toller was great in 1974 Worlds. Nebula5: !!!!! YES!!! DoctorRude: Peter Carruthers.....grrrrr........ LisaSeven: Peter seemed to be trying to restrain himself at the Festival. Nebula5: A little. SklarKToy: The first competition I ever watched were the 80 Olympics BrendaW660: Does anyone know how Shepherd Clark and Colin Vander Veen did at the festival??? LisaSeven: Gosh Carol, it is good to find another person who remembers them. CarolSel: I really became a skating fan in 1969. German television coverage was complete. DoctorRude: He was successful but you could see the wheels spinning and the teeth clench when he said there are LisaSeven: Hi Brenda..you must have come in while I was kicked out of the program. Nebula5: Toller will always be a favorite skater for me. DoctorRude: only two men for next year BrendaW660: HI, LisaSeven. Nebula5: I wish he'd go to vocabulary school. Nice. Good. SklarKToy: Didn't Clark (my friend calls him Bono-llok-a-like) finish 5th? I hear Vander Veen pulled out DoctorRude: Shepard Clark placed 5th over all and Colin Vander Veen did not compete SklarKToy: Todd and Mark BrendaW660: Thanks, doctor. SklarKToy: or Mark and Scott LisaSeven: The European coverage is so good...really complete. BrendaW660: Hunh? SklarKToy: Try the Junior Worlds... Nebula5: Canadian coverage is real good, usually. DoctorRude: So, you really think Mark for next year, Sklar? BrendaW660: Mark what? SklarKToy: They seem to broadcast it every leap year! MargeR1: I was so mad that we had zero coverage of the men's SklarKToy: Yes! LisaSeven: Yes...I like the CBC coverage. Excellent. DoctorRude: Is that because you think he'll skate great or because the judges will bend over for past slights? CarolSel: When I was there, the coverage was fantastic. Three hours a night, no commercials. SklarKToy: Skate great Nebula5: Paul & Barbara are great skater/commentators. BrendaW660: They'll have to change the tide of not recognizing good technique and artistry. MargeR1: I am hoping he skates great LisaSeven: I remember watching coverage like that during July in Austria!!! BrendaW660: He certainly gets the nice-guy vote too. DoctorRude: Me too, me too! DoctorRude: I'll vouch for that - very personable and very nice & friendly Nebula5: Who? Im confused. DoctorRude: Mark Mitchell; SklarKToy: If everyone falls except Rudy Galindo, do you think the judges will let Rudy go? Nebula5: Ah. SklarKToy: to the Olympics? MargeR1: It is now past 10 but we can stay on, folks LisaSeven: They should. Nebula5: I liked Rudy's short program. Missed the long. LisaSeven: I mean the judges should. SklarKToy: Ah......the Simpsons! Nebula5: Only 8 here. SklarKToy: They never showed Rudy's long down here MargeR1: Does he have all the jumps and combinations? (Rudy) SklarKToy: All the jumps SklarKToy: and some combinations Nebula5: Seemed to. Fantastic spins & positions. SklarKToy: He's improved tremendously between 91 and 92 SklarKToy: I mean 93 CarolSel: I can. I'm so far over my AOL budget, I'm just not going to worry about it. Nebula5: Yes. MargeR1: We have ladies and pair (3 of each) in Chicago only no mens no dance Nebula5: I know it has come up before, but where is Nationals? BrendaW660: DEE-TROIT LisaSeven: Hey everyone...I have to give the computer up to my husband..see you all later. OnlineHost: LisaSeven has left the room. BrendaW660: No, don't give it to him!!! Nebula5: Bye Lisa. Next time CarolSel: Bye Lisa. MargeR1: Bye Lynne Nebula5: Oooh, he's quick. BrendaW660: boo! DoctorRude: Bye LisaRudeSeven Nebula5: Anyone going to Nationals? BrendaW660: yes! DoctorRude: ME ME ME ME SklarKToy: Brenda...can't wait to see you at the Westin Renaissance! BrendaW660: and a me me me for Janet Pooley BrendaW660: YAY, isn't it great? SklarKToy: Me and Roland Nebula5: Take your laptops & modems; MargeR1: YES BrendaW660: I even had to learn to fly just so I could make it! CarolSel: Brenda, I finally mail my deposit of for Nationals. BrendaW660: I will BrendaW660: Great, Carol. Nebula5: Can you take them into the arena? :) BrendaW660: Laura says at Skate America my laptop and modem beat the news of men's results CarolSel: I just landed a new job to pay for the trip. BrendaW660: to the Skating Club of Boston. Nebula5: Well, we'll be waiting.... SklarKToy: I wish we could make some sort of group sweater, same color and design PNooney: Gotta go myself.See ya all next week. Nebula5: I don't think I can post from Norway. SklarKToy: Like the Canadians have when they go to world competitions Nebula5: Wear AOL logo h ats SklarKToy: 011 -- at and t...international? Nebula5: Big green triangles? OnlineHost: PNooney has left the room. BrendaW660: Yeah, they should provide us with hats!! CarolSel: I like the AOL logo hat idea. SklarKToy: I thought about big round yellow *P pins DoctorRude: I don't want a hat BrendaW660: BTW, group, I'm still coordinating an AOL skating group donation SklarKToy: just saying *P member, not the whole word BrendaW660: to the Stephanie Gaetz Memorial Fund, if anyone's interested. Nebula5: Ok, big sponge rubber hands like at football games. Nebula5: Very tasteful BrendaW660: This is the fund that Barb Underhill started in memory of her daughter, who BrendaW660: just recently drowned. Nebula5: Have you had a lot of responses, Brenda? BrendaW660: Not yet. BrendaW660: But it doesn't matter, it's the thought SklarKToy: You can only imagine what may be going on in the Gaetz and Thomas households Nebula5: Yes, a group card would be very nice, as well. OnlineHost: RANGER KID has entered the room. BrendaW660: OK, I'll get a card to go along with the checks. Nebula5: I think it would be appropriate to sign for all of us regulars. BrendaW660: Y'all, I don't mean to push a donation, I just wanted to mention it if y'all SklarKToy: How about one of those personalized Hallmark ones? BrendaW660: were interested. CarolSel: I hope they can weather the tragedy. Something like that is hard on a relationship. BrendaW660: What do you mean, Sklar? BrendaW660: I know .. the poem in ASW was just heartbreaking. Barb wrote it. OnlineHost: RANGER KID has left the room. SklarKToy: Where you can type in your own inscription rather than a form one Nebula5: Those are costly. Nebula5: (I know, I'm hooked on them) SklarKToy: !!! SklarKToy: Marge...you're on TV Nebula5: ? BrendaW660: I'll have to check it out when I'm in Columbia again MargeR1: Brenda, why don't you write something on your own computer instead? BrendaW660: Sure ... OnlineHost: Pattern99 has left the room. BrendaW660: I thought about sending my essay, corny as that might sound. BrendaW660: It might just show how much audiences get out of their skating. Nebula5: Now you have to share it with us. SklarKToy: It's the thought that counts...she'll be pleased BrendaW660: What? MargeR1: I think that is a lovely idea. I thought you should mention it will be published.... Nebula5: And I must go soon too. Share your essay. BrendaW660: Aw, Marge! DoctorRude: Send the essay Brenda - it's really a masterpiece BrendaW660: Thanks, guys. Nebula5: Post it! BrendaW660: Tracings will publish in October, or so I hear. Nebula5: Or upload to library if it's long. Nebula5: (Or will that cause copyright problems.) BrendaW660: I don't want to upload it to library because that is public, and could be considered BrendaW660: "publication," which could present copyright problems. MargeR1: She'll have to wait until after it is published, I think. BrendaW660: What I send e-mail, however, is my own business. Nebula5: :) SklarKToy: Going to go soon, folks...missing out on the Simpsons...Sienfeld is a must! BrendaW660: Who wants it? Nebula5: Well, night all. Come back next week, especially you new folks! SklarKToy: Send it to Everybody!! Nebula5: ME, brenda CarolSel: I do.